Irish priest spurns Vatican plan that would have allowed return inito minstry Michael Kelly, CATHOLIC NEWS SERVICE, Sep 18, 2020.
Redemptorist Father Tony Flannery is pictured in an undated photo. The well-known Irish priest who has been in a dispute with the Vatican for several years over his controversial views has rejected a plan from the Congregation to the Doctrine of the Faith that would have restored him to public ministry. (Credit: CNS photo/Irish Catholic.)
One of the tectonic – radical – changes, Vatican ii brought about in the church is that it should change constantly (semper reformanda!). It is totally the opposite of its traditional teaching of Pius xii and Ottoviani, his Doctrinal congregation head who taught church never changes with his motto: Ecclesia semper idem (never changes!)
Cardinal Newman also taught that church and all of us must change constantly, we quoted it many times:” It may be different in a higher world, not here bellow… to be perfect is to have changed constantly!”
Francis doing it!
It is only now over 50 years after the Counsel, so a determined effort is made by Pope Francis against an onslaught of attacks on him, by the conservative Vatican Curia which can never be changed on its views on “homosexuals, same-sex marriage, co-habitation, sex enjoyment equal to food enjoyment, jesus never ordained priests etc….”
Even this writer, considered a liberal thinker, could not – in fact still struggling – agree with many of them, but coming round to agree with the views of Francis, forced by strict reason, not blind faith! Read a quote: “We should not forget to mention that Jesus never ordained anyone and he never said much about sex, certainly not about homosexuality. At least that's what is recorded in the Gospel accounts.”
Jesus High priest, King?
This is not to say that you should agree either with me or Father Tony Flannery, whose vews are discussed below. Just think of the absurdity of a JESUS becoming the HIGH PRIEST? It was “Saul of Tarsus” persecutor turned preacher, who created Christ the KING!
It’s need was felt even during the time of Jesus! Otherwise how could James and John approach Jesus through their mother, to make them sit on his right and left, as Prime Ministers in his Kingdom?
Synodality & Democracy
Francis still fights forward to promote ‘Synodality and democracy’ in the Churh while the CURIA opposes tooth-and-nail! Personally, I can bat only for Redemptorist Fr. Flannery sticking to his guns for women priesthood, gender equality in a totally male dominated church while Jesus was totally women friendly kissing mary on the lipes as reported in Gospel of Philip & elsewhere.
Especially the German Church and many in the Amazone synod are also for Synodality with Francis! He tries to balance both, to go slowly (festina lente; hurry up slowly)to forestall a possible Schism!
Of course none of you have to believe my reporting! But websites are full of articles on these topics. Only I am not able to reproduce them all here, as my object is not winning an argument for any faction, while a criminal man-made Hierarchy is defending themselves with their criminal silence and coverup!
Trifles Make Perfection!
Vatican Curia is always strong with the weak and weak with the strong. Irish Fr. Flannery 73, could not be cowed down by threats. So like a defeated dog, the Curia stopped with its barks, and turned back with its tail tucked between legs, not daring to bite!
No harm in thinking over these sweet or bitter news items that provoke thinking to come to a balanced conclusion for each one. “Triffles make perfection, but perfection is no triffle”, Michael Angelow. james kottoor, editor ccv.
Read below Fr. Flannery, Jesus didn’t start Priesthood!
DUBLIN — A well-known Irish priest who has been in a dispute with the Vatican for several years over his controversial views has rejected a plan from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith that would have restored him to public ministry.
Redemptorist Father Tony Flannery has been forbidden to exercise public ministry since 2012 after he was censured for saying that he no longer believed that “the priesthood as we currently have it in the Church originated with Jesus” or that he designated “a special group of his followers as priests.”
Flannery said he believes his priestly ministry has ended.The priest revealed on his website Sept. 16 that he had been asked by the Vatican in July to affirm church teaching on a number of areas, including the inadmissibility of women for ordination, homosexuality, same-sex relationships and gender theory. He said he refused.
Flannery’s announcement came after an intervention by Redemptorist Superior General Father Michael Brehl, who wrote to the doctrinal congregation in February asking if he could permit Flannery, 73, to return to public ministry.
According to documents published on Flannery’s website, the Vatican congregation responded that he “should not return to public ministry prior to submitting a signed statement regarding his positions on homosexuality, civil unions between persons of the same sex, and the admission of women to the priesthood.”
The letter from the Vatican said that “the Irish Provincial should ask Father Flannery to give his assent to the statement by providing his signature in each of the places indicated (enclosure).” The letter referred to separate statements asserting church teaching in each relevant area with space for Flannery to sign his name.
Flannery said he was “not surprised, but disappointed and saddened” by the Vatican’s response. “In my view, it is a document that, both in tone and content, would be more at home in the 19th century. I could not possibly sign those propositions,” he said.
He insisted that the issue of the ordination of women is now “freely discussed in the church,” saying he has been “on record for many years now in supporting, indeed emphasizing the necessity, of full equality for women, including ordination. How could I possibly sign that first proposition?”
In 1994, St. John Paul II said the question about women being ordained was not possible because Jesus chose only men as his apostles. Pope Francis in 2016 affirmed the stance.
Flannery also said he held the same beliefs about “official Church language on homosexuality and homosexual relationships,” which he described as “appalling. I could not submit to it. As regards same-sex marriage, I voted in favor of it. I don’t know enough about gender theory to have any strong views on it, and I don’t know where that one came from.”
Church teaching holds that a valid marriage can exist only between one man and one woman. He felt this was “the end of the line in terms of priestly ministry for me. I could not possibly have any more dealings with a body that produces such a document. Life is too short, especially at 73.”
There was no immediate response from the press office of the Irish Catholic bishops’ conference.